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+ | Q: Hi: another poetry question : ) This is regarding How to Dress a Fish. There is again a lot of complex formatting in the original text. However, I've come across something new in the second poem, "Fox Hunting" | ||
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+ | Looking ahead, there is a mixture of text and images. A particularly complex one is the image for [grocery list, July 26, 2015]. I lean towards keeping the images and doing prod notes for them because of how complex and visual they are but I wanted to check what you thought. | ||
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+ | A: I looked at the book, and this is a tricky one. Text as images is a big publisher no-no. We currently do not retain complex formatting for DAISY books. | ||
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+ | For most of this collection you want to adhere to this and transcribe and remove all images of text //except// [Side 1] and [Side 2] in "Fox Hunting": | ||
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+ | * First transcribe and markup the poem styles as per wiki standards | ||
+ | * insert a In-Text Producer' | ||
+ | * Keep the images and do an In-text Producer' | ||
+ | * Enter simple Alt-text for image (e.g. Section of poem as originally formatted.) | ||
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+ | Other formatting tasks for this book: | ||
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+ | * retain italics, underline and strikethrough when they occur. | ||
+ | * For the lines and small decorative images that work as content breaks, replace them all with the asterisks. | ||
+ | * For the text boxes, use the wiki standards. | ||
+ | * Keep the black boxes and add the alt-text "thick black line that blocks out word" | ||
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+ | For an example of another tricky book I recommend downloading ' | ||
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+ | Q: I am editing a book of poetry, Arias by Sharon Olds. One of the poems uses scansion marks to indicate syllable stress in the middle of the poem. How should I approach this to ensure it is read appropriately? | ||
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+ | Here is the relevant part of the poem: | ||
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+ | being the baby, | ||
+ | being the mother, | ||
+ | / - - / - , , / - - / - , | ||
+ | dactyl, trochee, dactyl, trochee, | ||
+ | active witness, active witness of the witness. | ||
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+ | A: Leave it as is. You can mention in the Producers note at the beginning that the poem include scansion marks to indicate syllable stress. | ||
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+ | Q: Follow up to the Magnetic Equator poetry question. I did read the section on complex poetry formatting before posting my question. The example says to use an inline prod note before each poem to describe the formatting. However, if you look at the poems in this book, their formatting is more variable and complex than the example so many of them would require a very long and hard to follow prod note because there' | ||
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+ | BEGIN PRODUCER' | ||
+ | In the following poem, there is a blank page between each stanza. | ||
+ | In the first stanza, the first line is center justified. The second line is indented and there is a space in between the word " | ||
+ | END PRODUCER' | ||
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+ | or would you recommend a simpler but less informative note like this: | ||
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+ | BEGIN PRODUCER' | ||
+ | The following stanza has some lines that are right justified. It also has large spaces placed irregularly in the middle of lines. | ||
+ | END PRODUCER' | ||
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+ | A: The simple version of the inline producer' | ||
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+ | Remember that an inline producer' | ||
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+ | Most people will be reading the poetry for leisure so the producer’s notes are just to let people know formatting has been removed and maybe provide some general description on how it was originally formatted. If a reader requests a copy with original formatting or wants to know details about the original formatting then we can always do that a later date (that’s yet to happen.) Remember, a key rule of thumb to accessibility is keeping it simple. | ||
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+ | Q: I am doing a book of poetry, Magnetic Equator, and the poems are formatted with unusual spaces and justification. I've attached samples screenshots of one of the poems, with a screenshot of how I'm trying to represent the original formatting. I also thought I'd put a prod note at the beginning explaining that spaces and right justification are marked throughout the poems to represent the original formatting. Please let me know if this works or if there' | ||
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+ | A: Though I see what you are attempting to do here, but it disrupts the reading of the text. We have a section on the wiki that explains how to produce complex poetry. Here is a [[public: | ||
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+ | Q: Another poetry question: In the book Treaty #, on page 1, 33, and 63, there are a bunch of backwards words. They' | ||
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+ | A: In this case, leave it as is since it is the intent of the author to have it difficult or impossible to read. Insert a inline producer' | ||
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+ | Q: In the book of poetry I'm working on (St. Boniface Elegies), there are quite a few words marked with italics. On the page on poetry in the wiki, it says, " | ||
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+ | A: You can retain the italics in the lines of poetry, but remove the italics from the titles, blockquotes, | ||
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+ | Q: Also relating to the book of poems (St. Boniface Elegies), I've come across a poem that is divided into sections and each section has a title. So essentially they are sub-titles and normally I would give them the next level of headings. But since this is poetry, I'm not sure how to handle them. Should I tag the sub-titles with the Poem - Title style? With the next level heading style? Or not tag them at all? The poem I'm referring to is called " | ||
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+ | A: Keep them as Poem (DAISY), but retain the italics. You can also put an inline producers note to explain what you have done. The wiki has some examples of this in the poetry section. | ||
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**Q: I am editing a poetry book that uses Italian, French, and Latin. | **Q: I am editing a poetry book that uses Italian, French, and Latin. | ||
A: Unfortunately, | A: Unfortunately, |