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public:nnels:etext:poetry [2020/05/08 21:17] rachel.osolen [Q&A] |
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====== Poetry ====== | ====== Poetry ====== | ||
- | We mark up poetry | + | For the most part, poetry |
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- | * Poem (DAISY) | + | Poetry is an artistic medium, so we retain direct formatting such as: strong, emphasis, underline, and strikethrough. |
- | * Poem - Title (DAISY) | + | |
- | * Poem - Byline (DAISY) | + | |
- | * Author (DAISY) | + | |
- | By poetry, we mean any text where definition of poetic structure is required. The Poem (DAISY) style is an appropriate form of markup | + | Languages can be applied as needed. See the [[public: |
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- | Sometimes you will come across a poem that has more complex formatting that can not be translated to DAISY. | + | Sometimes you will come across a poem that has more complex formatting that can not be translated to EPUB. |
- | We can not retain this formatting for DAISY conversion. | + | We can not retain this formatting for EPUB conversion. |
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+ | Q: Hi: another poetry question : ) This is regarding How to Dress a Fish. There is again a lot of complex formatting in the original text. However, I've come across something new in the second poem, "Fox Hunting" | ||
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+ | Looking ahead, there is a mixture of text and images. A particularly complex one is the image for [grocery list, July 26, 2015]. I lean towards keeping the images and doing prod notes for them because of how complex and visual they are but I wanted to check what you thought. | ||
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+ | A: I looked at the book, and this is a tricky one. Text as images is a big publisher no-no. We currently do not retain complex formatting for DAISY books. | ||
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+ | For most of this collection you want to adhere to this and transcribe and remove all images of text //except// [Side 1] and [Side 2] in "Fox Hunting": | ||
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+ | * First transcribe and markup the poem styles as per wiki standards | ||
+ | * insert a In-Text Producer' | ||
+ | * Keep the images and do an In-text Producer' | ||
+ | * Enter simple Alt-text for image (e.g. Section of poem as originally formatted.) | ||
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+ | Other formatting tasks for this book: | ||
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+ | * retain italics, underline and strikethrough when they occur. | ||
+ | * For the lines and small decorative images that work as content breaks, replace them all with the asterisks. | ||
+ | * For the text boxes, use the wiki standards. | ||
+ | * Keep the black boxes and add the alt-text "thick black line that blocks out word" | ||
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+ | For an example of another tricky book I recommend downloading ' | ||
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+ | Q: I am editing a book of poetry, Arias by Sharon Olds. One of the poems uses scansion marks to indicate syllable stress in the middle of the poem. How should I approach this to ensure it is read appropriately? | ||
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+ | Here is the relevant part of the poem: | ||
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+ | being the baby, | ||
+ | being the mother, | ||
+ | / - - / - , , / - - / - , | ||
+ | dactyl, trochee, dactyl, trochee, | ||
+ | active witness, active witness of the witness. | ||
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+ | A: Leave it as is. You can mention in the Producers note at the beginning that the poem include scansion marks to indicate syllable stress. | ||
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+ | Q: Follow up to the Magnetic Equator poetry question. I did read the section on complex poetry formatting before posting my question. The example says to use an inline prod note before each poem to describe the formatting. However, if you look at the poems in this book, their formatting is more variable and complex than the example so many of them would require a very long and hard to follow prod note because there' | ||
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+ | BEGIN PRODUCER' | ||
+ | In the following poem, there is a blank page between each stanza. | ||
+ | In the first stanza, the first line is center justified. The second line is indented and there is a space in between the word " | ||
+ | END PRODUCER' | ||
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+ | or would you recommend a simpler but less informative note like this: | ||
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+ | BEGIN PRODUCER' | ||
+ | The following stanza has some lines that are right justified. It also has large spaces placed irregularly in the middle of lines. | ||
+ | END PRODUCER' | ||
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+ | A: The simple version of the inline producer' | ||
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+ | Remember that an inline producer' | ||
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+ | Most people will be reading the poetry for leisure so the producer’s notes are just to let people know formatting has been removed and maybe provide some general description on how it was originally formatted. If a reader requests a copy with original formatting or wants to know details about the original formatting then we can always do that a later date (that’s yet to happen.) Remember, a key rule of thumb to accessibility is keeping it simple. | ||
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+ | Q: I am doing a book of poetry, Magnetic Equator, and the poems are formatted with unusual spaces and justification. I've attached samples screenshots of one of the poems, with a screenshot of how I'm trying to represent the original formatting. I also thought I'd put a prod note at the beginning explaining that spaces and right justification are marked throughout the poems to represent the original formatting. Please let me know if this works or if there' | ||
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+ | A: Though I see what you are attempting to do here, but it disrupts the reading of the text. We have a section on the wiki that explains how to produce complex poetry. Here is a [[public: | ||
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Q: Another poetry question: In the book Treaty #, on page 1, 33, and 63, there are a bunch of backwards words. They' | Q: Another poetry question: In the book Treaty #, on page 1, 33, and 63, there are a bunch of backwards words. They' |